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How to fill the S.P.Jain profile-based form

S.P Jain (SPJIMR in full or SP as it is usually referred to) is one of the most underrated business schools in the country. One of the highlights of the S.P.Jain admissions process is that applicants have to choose their specialization at the time of application. While this might be tough for freshers who do not have enough information and self-awareness to choose a specialization, it is a boon for applicants with work experience.

Specialization Matters
The biggest advantage of such a process is during placements. The placement team will ensure that for each specialization there are enough recruiters coming on board during the placements. For example, for a person with 3-4 years of work experience in the operations sector, S.P.Jain will be a much better option than maybe even the IIMs since there will be recruiters coming down specifically to hire people with such a profile. At an IIM the placements committee does not have the responsibility to specifically find 60 niche operations jobs.

The college also enjoys having a huge locational-advantage with Mumbai being the financial capital of the country as a well as the city where the most sought after Marketing recruiters such as HUL are headquartered.


Profile-based Calls & Score-Based Calls
S.P.Jain also has two different routes through which it gives out calls after you fill in the application form, the deadline for the same is 23-November.

Profile-based Call: The first is an interview call based purely on your profile — your profile should be in line with the specialization you apply for and what recruiters hiring for that specialization look for. This shortlist is out even without a test score. Once the CAT/GMAT results are out you need to meet the criteria given in the table below.

Qualifying Criteria CAT 2020 GMAT 01 Jan 2018 – 31 Dec 2020
Overall Qualifying Criteria 85 percentile                  85 percentile
Sectional Qualifying Criteria 75 percentile 75 percentile

Score-based Call: This shortlist is released after the CAT scores are out and based purely on your CAT scores.

This goes on to show that if you get a profile-based call, you will need a lower percentile to get an interview call than if you get a score-based call.


How To Fill The S.P.Jain Application Form
A great profile needs to rank highly on the following parameters:

  •  Academic track record
  • Co-curricular & extra-curricular track record
  • Profile-specialization match

So a lot depends on making a good application that reflects each of these. We will look at a screenshot of how each component of the online application looks and then discuss the best way to go about filling it.


Academic Achievements

SPJIMR Academic Achievements

Academic achievements primarily relate to such achievements as standing in the top performers in your class at various levels, X, XII, Graduation Year or in an exam such as the NTSC or JEE or Math Olympiad.

How does one go about filling this part?

Make a list of all academic achievements. Rank order them not in chronological order but in terms of

  • Level of achievement or position you secured
  • Level of competition or perceived toughness – NTSC, Olympiads, AIEEE, JEE
  • The scale of the achievement – school, city, state, district national

In case you do not have 3 academic achievements then list co-curricular achievements such as paper-presentations, journal publications or anything that is related to your academics.

Describe in less than 50 words: Try to be as brief as possible if the achievement is something that can be easily understood. Use the remaining space to describe how this is something that you have been consistently good at. For example, you have only one top 1-5 in terms of academic achievement but you have always been driven to do well academically. Add that part in the description — throughout your education, you have stood in the top 10% (do not write 10%, calculate your position) of your class etc.

Add anything that puts your achievement into perspective — the only person from your town/village/school/institution to achieve this, the number of participants etc.


Versatility

SPJIMR Versatility

For the versatility section please make a list of all your areas of interest that fall out of the curricular and co-curricular category.

Do not approach it from the perspective of what evaluators might find attractive but rather look at the level of interest/achievement you have in that area. For example, if dancing is your biggest passion/interest then rank it first. Do not rush to rank social-service activities first.

If you have certificates and achievements great, but even if you do not, you can still go ahead and fill up three areas as long as you have a strong interest and have done more than your peers.

For example, if reading is a major passion, you will not have any certificates to show for the same! But use the description space to present how much you like reading — favourite genres, favourite authors, reading since age so and so, read so many books a month etc. Any genre is fine as long as it has some international/intellectual significance. For example, fantasy, science-fiction, historical fiction, all are fine. Just ensure that you do not cite Chetan Bhagat :-).

The same applies to any other area of interest that does not correspond with certificates. Applicants from this part of the world (TN & AP), please do not write watching movies since everyone does it. If you watch world cinema or any specific genre of movies a lot, are knowledgeable and can hold a conversation about the same then you can go ahead and mention movies.

Since this deals with versatility ensure that you choose three different areas. If you have participated in CSR activities at your workplace or volunteered for NGOs please include that as well.

Most importantly, when it comes to extracurriculars (not to be confused with interests), please understand that it is not a case of what you have done but what you have accomplished. So participation in various events is just that participation, no points for that, did you win anything is the question.

Again this does not apply to interest such as theatre or plays. For example, I will cite theatre or dramatics as an area of interest and cite that I have played major parts in plays right from my early schooling to college and PG, the high-point being a performing XYZ play directed by ABC etc.

Overall Versatility Rating: Rate yourself based on the diversity of things you have participated in and the level of interest across areas.

SPJIMR Overall Versatility


Responsibility Shouldered

SPJIMR Responsibility Shouldered

The two sections, personal and professional are clearly demarcated.

In the personal section, include any activity where you took or were given the responsibility. They can be

  • on-going or long-duration responsibilities such as helping you brother/sister in his/her education or guiding him/her throughout, taking up some household responsibility owing to a family situation (working parents), or
  • specific short-duration responsibilities such as arranging the wedding of a sibling or family member etc or having to help out your parent in a specific task etc.

In the professional section include responsibilities that you undertook that were not part of your KRAs or job description. They can be can be

  • handling responsibilities higher than your designation due to the absence of manpower
  • special projects/initiatives that you undertook or were given to you
  • organizing events at your workplace

In both cases use the description to put in perspective

  • the scale/importance of responsibility,
  • the role you played and
  • the quality of the outcome

Programme Details

Specialisation

This is possibly one of the most important aspects of applying to S.P.Jain — choosing the right specialization.

How does one go about this? The first question is whether you are applying with work experience or applying as a fresher.

Work-experience candidates should apply to the area in with the reason “relevant work-experience”. This has to be the first preference.

If you are applying with IT work-experience, unless you can really connect the nature of your work with another specialization, choose Information Management (IM). In previous years, applicants whose profiles did not match with the specialization they applied to have been reassigned to a different specialization! DO NOT make your first preference based on “special interest in this area”, make that your second preference.

In many cases, you might not find your profile relevant to any other area apart from the one in which you have work-ex. In this case, choose any of the areas as a second preference citing special interest in this area.

Freshers should apply only to Marketing or Finance.

Operations and IM both attract recruiters who are looking at people with relevant work-ex. The batches of both streams usually have an average work-ex of at least 2 years.

If your job profile involves being part of the design, procurement, production, quality control, maintenance, or logistics — anything that is part of the entire process of manufacturing and delivering a product or service (not IT products or services) — you can apply to Operations.

Mechanical engineering freshers also do not stand a chance of getting an Operations shortlist since management roles in Operations cannot be given to a fresher, recruiters look for candidates with hard-core ops work-ex.

The same thing applies to CSE/IT freshers applying to IM. Post an IM  degree you will be handling business roles in IT and there is no way you can take these roles up without having been part of a software product/services projects.

Non-engineering freshers such as Commerce, Economics or BBA graduates can apply to Finance. You can choose a second area as Marketing based on “done specialized courses in this area” or “special interest in this area”.

The reverse holds true for Engineering freshers, Marketing first and Finance next.

Please note that for Finance you will be competing with people who have “graduated in related area” such as the backgrounds mentioned above and CA. So do not mention it as your first preference unless you are really serious about it and are sure that despite your profile not being relevant you will get a shortlist through a stellar CAT score.

A safer option is to apply to Marketing (since recruiters in this sector look for freshers) based on  “special interest in this area” and Operations/Finance as a second preference under “done specialized courses in this area” or “special interest in this area”, whichever is relevant.

If you are mentioning Special Area Of Interest, you have to provide an explanation in 50 words.

Use this space to mention

  • why you like this specialization and how your skills or traits are aligned to the same and
  • the things you have done informally that demonstrate your special interest in this area.

You might have done a lot of things for which you have no certificates to show —

  • say organizing events in your college and firm or working unpaid for an event management for Marketing
  • following stock-markets or investing on your own keenly for finance
  • in both fields, you can mention the books that you have read to improve your knowledge of the same

The last part of the form is the work-experience details, the filling up of which should be pretty straightforward.

Also, freshers — internships DO NOT COUNT as work experience, whether it is done before or after college; work-experience needs to be full-time, paid, work. Start-ups can be counted as work-experience provided you have registered the firm and have proof of the same. Work experience in the family business also needs to be supported by salary slips.


Will I get a call from S.P.Jain?

If you look at the comments thread for this post you will see that there is a deluge of queries.

It is understandable. Everyone would be jumping at the chance to get a call at 85 and they just want to know if they can get a call.

Here is a simple way to figure out if you will get a call.

Profile Alignment + Exceptional Academic Profile (90,90,80) +  ECAs + CAT
Percentile of 85 = Profile-Based Call

Profile Alignment + Decent Academic Profile + CAT Percentile of 96-97 = Score-based Call

When you apply you are applying to have a shot at both calls.

Both calls are given out after the CAT score is out. So you qualify for either one or the other.

Each of the parameters above is mutually exclusive.

You need to score points on each count.

First Milestone — Profile-Specialization Alignment

Please understand that profiles are not evaluated independently of the specialization you have applied to.

Most aspirants think that profile-based calls evaluate the quality of your academics, extracurriculars, and work-ex in isolation. Wrong.

The question is never — do you have a good profile.

It is always — do you have a good profile for Marketing, Finance, Operations or IM.

So if you are planning to apply to specializations without following the guidelines above then you are taking a risk and you can rest assured that in all likelihood you will not get a call. This profile alignment applies to both score-based and profile based calls.

SPJIMR puts out the summary profiles of all the candidates who are part of the current batch. We took an exhaustive look at it and this is what we found:

MARKETING: 25 percent freshers, mixed educational background

FINANCE: 25 percent freshers, only 1 engineer

OPERATIONS: Only 1 fresher (city-topper in graduation), average work-ex of 2.5 years, 50% mechanical engineers

IM: No Freshers, only 2 students with less than 24 months of work-ex, all candidates had IT/Tech work-ex

Second Milestone — Academics

If you have more than one — X, XII or Graduation — less than 80 then a profile-based call is well-nigh ruled out.

Please understand that since they are giving out calls at 85 percentile, they will expect you to have the academic capability to handle a rigorous 2-year MBA program. The only way for them to check this is your past Academic profile.

You might have a 90 or 10 CGPA in your X, a 75 or 7.5 in your Grad, both of which are great, but if your XII marks are less than 80 due to your IIT attempt, then there is no way that with two 70s you can get a call unless you some insane spike in your work-ex or extracurriculars.

Most institutes now rate the profiles quantitatively so that there is not subjectivity involved — points for crossing particular slabs.

If X Marks have 10 points, then they are divided into slabs

  • 90 and above – 10 points
  • 85-90 – 8 points
  • 80-85 – 7 points

The above slabs are just representative.

So it is not that they are thinking — Oh, this candidate has grad marks below 80 but he has great work-ex let us walk into the sunset and debate his candidature.

You score or drop points based on the slabs and if you drop three points then it is tough to make it up elsewhere there are always enough people who tick the top-tier of all slabs and checkboxes.

Third Milestone — Extracurriculars

Extracurriculars kick in only after you have cleared the other two milestones. Given India’s population, you know that there would be enough people who clear the first two. This is where a good extracurriculars or versatility comes into the picture.

A good extra-curricular profile can be one that has a major achievement in one area — state/national-level sports, concert-level musician/dancer or any other achievement that clearly puts you in the top percentiles in that area — and one more interest which can be minor.

Another kind of profile can be one that has a lot of width — sports, music, social work, leadership — average achievements in one or two areas and minor in others.

I have had the odd student — an engineer with good academics and a big brand work-ex — who got a call for Finance but have not seen a single case where they eventually cleared even the first Group Interview. They themselves felt that the peer group they were sitting with was in a different league as far their knowledge and profile-match for Finance went. The same students made it to IIM-B and other big schools but could not clear the first Group Interview of SPJIMR.

So before commenting and asking me whether your profile is good, please do a sanity check above.

If you clear all the milestones your profile will be competitive.

But does it guarantee a call, it depends on the quality of the other applications.

For Finance, for example, you will be competing with candidates with two 90s and an 80 and a big brand Commerce college plus a CA/CPT/IPCC plus big brand work-ex plus social work and other extracurriculars.


What if I  DO NOT want to apply to the specialization my profile is aligned with?

Well very often, especially for those with IT work-ex, the whole point of an MBA is to escape IT and rediscovering one’s real passion:

  • Marketing — owing to an extroverted personality that puts people at ease or above-average exceptional communication skills or something that tells you that you will be great at making ads
  • Operations —  Mechanical Engineers, usually
  • Finance  —  it is either straightforward – the money and glamour associated with Finance as projected through Wall Street and Wolf of Wall Street, a fascination with stock markets knowing a thing or two about it and maybe having invested your own or someone else’s buck or two, a fascination with stock markets knowing nothing about it or a reason that is still inscrutable like the nature of God

So whatever your reason, if you want to change your domain — do not apply to SPJIMR. Both recruitments and admissions are aligned to profiles.

Does this mean that your MBA dreams are sealed?

Not really.

All other b-schools give you more leeway in that you are not asked about your choice of specializations in the application and in the interviews but only your reasons for an MBA in general.


What sort of profiles get calls

The whole idea of a profile-based call is to give calls out to exceptional profiles even if the CAT percentile is quite low.

From past data, it is very clear that they look at exceptional academic profiles first and then they look at other aspects of the profile. This is but understandable since the MBA is an academically rigorous course, so if they are letting you are a much lower level of CAT score, you need to have a much higher level of academic profiles. 

Think of it this way, they have a certain weight for X, XII, Grad, and CAT Score. If your X, II, Grad are so good that you will get very high marks for those, a lower CAT Score will suffice.

What is a good academic profile?

A 90/90/80 is par for a SPJIMR profile-based call.

It is pretty tough to get a profile-based call with lower marks than these, unless you have some crazy national level achievements or a professional degree such as a CA or CFA that is very relevant for a Finance specialization.


A rejection for a profile-based call is not a rejection of your profile

Do not take my comments about whether you will get a profile-based call or not as a referendum on the quality of your profile for MBA applications in general and become despondent!

Also, do not take rejection from SPJIMR for a profile-based call as a rejection of your profile. SPJIMR will give you a score-based call, even after rejecting you for a profile-based call if you score above 96-97 percentile!

Another thing, I do not blog for a living, I am the Chief Learning Officer for IMS and do this out of my interest over and above my daily responsibilities. Why am telling you this? So that you don’t get jittery if you do not receive an immediate reply and post — Sir, please reply sir comments 🙂 You will usually get a reply anywhere within a minute to 36 hours depending on my schedule.

This has already been a super-long post. Hope I have covered most of the stuff needed to fill the form and give you a fair idea of whether you will get a call.

I would like you to post a comment only if you feel that you have a query that the post does not answer and please do not post a query without mentioning which specialisation you want to apply to.

I can easily make out if someone has only skimmed through the post and dumped their profile in the comments looking for a quick-fix and would not bother to reply, you might as well read the post again and improve your RC skills  🙂

272 Comments

  1. Vaishnavi says

    Hello Sir,
    I got profile-based call from SPJIMR last year but I was not able to make it. Can I write same answers as I wrote in my previous application. Considering I did not add any extra curricular achievements previous year and also my answer for my specialization remains same.
    Thank you.

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  2. Prateek says

    Sir,

    I am currently working in the Petroleum manufacturing sector, but I am not involved in Supply chain per se, I am involved in projects that are required for operations as I am Civil Engineer.
    I want to change my profile but it’s not happening @my current job. Hence was looking forward to a specialization in Operations and Supply Chain. I have a decent profile and my other doubts have been cleared by your exhaustive post and comments.
    Can you please revert if I should apply for Marketing first(but don’t have much ECAs to back up) or Operations and Supply Chain.

    Please help!

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    • Hi Prateek,

      Given your work-ex, you should apply to Operations, your current profile will be relevant and signed to the same.

      All the best!

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  3. Nuzhat says

    Hello Sir,
    I am a civil engineer currently working in L&T Ltd. since almost 2 years. I have secured 94% marks in class Xth , 93% in class XIIth , but i have managed to secure only 76& in my B.Tech .Can I qualify for a profile based call also? What specialization should i apply so that it aligns with my work experience?

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  4. Hello sir,
    I’d like you to look into my profile and guide me about the options I have for profile – based calls.
    Acads:
    10th – 95%
    12th – 61% (I had some very serious medical conditions for 1.5 yr. proves of which can be presented if necessary).
    Grad – 67% (till sem 5) (sub – English literature)

    Co- curricular
    1. 3rd position in Ranchi district powerlifting
    championship.
    2. Winner of Jharkhand level state powerlifting
    championship, in my weight category.
    3. Qualified for nationals. (Event got cancelled due to the pandemic)

    Extra activities.
    1. Have been associated with a NGO since long, which mainly works for underprivileged kids.
    2. Been an active member of organising committee in university.

    Kindly help me target b-schools according to this profile.

    Thank you.

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    • Hi Gunh,

      It will be tough for you to get a profile-based call from SP given your academic profile.

      Aa far as the other schools go, you should apply to schools based on your expected percentile, since that plays is a bigger role in getting a call from schools apart from the IIMs and SP.

      All the best!

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  5. Archit Thakur says

    Hello,

    This is a very insightful post. I hope you can help me out by evaluating my profile (25, male):

    Education
    10th – 90%
    12th – 65% (Science stream)
    Undergrad – 70%; B.Sc. in Hospitality & Hotel Administration from IHM Mumbai (Oldest and top-ranked hospitality education institute in the country)

    Work experience: 5 years (60 months)
    1. Account Executive at Booking(dot)com (NASDAQ: BKNG; Fortune500): Managing supplier accounts in the assigned region, involves consultative selling, relationship management and improving product adoption. I’ve led region & country-level projects for improving the quality of listings on the website [33 months]
    2. Business Development Executive at Cleartrip(dot)com (Online travel agency): Job role & responsibilities are the same as above. Awarded for ‘Exemplary Performance’. [27 months]

    Certifications
    Fundamentals of Digital Marketing (Google)
    Business Fundamentals: Marketing Strategy
    Project Management (Udemy)

    GMAT: 680; CAT: To be attempted

    P.S. I have been shortlisted for interviews for the 1-year program at SPJIMR but I’ve decided to go for the PGDM program.

    Thanks in advance 🙂

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    • Hi Archit,

      As detailed out very clearly in my post, profile-based called is next to impossible without stellar academics.

      If you cross 96-percentile, you will get a score-based call but conversion will not be easy since they are known to segregate students for their different programs, so it is very likely that they will try to persuade you to join the 1-year program and not the 2-year one, since your profile will be an outlier in the 2-year program.

      Hope this clarifies,

      All the best!

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  6. Ananya says

    Hello Sir,
    Thank you for this detailed insight.

    I would be grateful if you would help analyse my profile :
    10th: 89% ICSE
    12th: 82% Commerce, CBSE
    Graduation: B. Des from National Institute of Fashion Technology,
    8.5 CGPA

    Work Ex : Fresher

    Achievements :
    1) Secured second position in an all India Logo Design Competition, organised by the SportsAuthority of Andhra Pradesh for their new project.
    2) Selected among top ten students, for the ORION KSID Innovation Awards, conducted by Kerala State Institute of Design.
    3) Worked with 50 national award winning artists to make a live painting for the Bihar Government.
    4) Inter College product design competition winner.

    Kindly help me target B-Schools with this profile.

    Thank you in advance!

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    • Ananya Sinha says

      Also, industry internship opportunity with Dr. Rebecca Reubens, World Bamboo Ambassador of India.

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    • Hi Ananya,

      For SP profile-based call you can apply to Marketing you stand a decent chance.

      For the rest, you have to apply to schools based on your expected percentile.

      All the best!

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  7. Abhinay Singh says

    Highlights of my profile:-

    My Academics are Xth – 87% (Gold Medalist), XIIth – 78% & Grad: – 8.41 (B.Tech Electrical) (All-State Board), Post Graduate Diploma in Banking & Finance – 84.4% (Manipal Academy)
    35 Months work-ex in Public Sector Bank as Credit Manager. Currently, I’m heading a portfolio of Sub 100 Cr. I have few certifications like JAIIB, Moody’s Certificate in Commercial Credit. Also, I’m interested in Finance.
    I just wanna know if I stand any chances for Finance Shortlist either Profile or Scored Based since last year I scored 97%ile and didn’t fetch any.

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    • Hi Abhinay,

      If you did not get a call last time then the chances of you getting a call this time around might be high, the only factor can be more work-ex getting you a few more points.

      I suggest not applying but not counting on SP, and looking at other schools as well and also taking the CFA at some stage, it can become a hygiene factor on non-Fin edu background resumes at all top schools.

      Hope this helps,

      All the best!

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  8. Hi Sir,

    I am an Electronics engineer, currently working as a data analyst with a total of 3.5 years of experience (2 years in Deloitte as an analyst and 1.5 years in an ed-tech startup – toppr – as a data analyst). My academic summary – 94.31%-87.33%-8.03/10 (10th-12th-gradCGPA). Based on my profile, I feel IM would be my best shot, and hence I am planning to put it as my first preference.

    However, I am confused as to what should I put as my second preference – marketing or operations. I have some experience in both fields and also, both the fields interest me. Hence, the confusion!

    While working with Deloitte consultancy, I had got the opportunity to work with a pipe manufacturing client and got some exposure towards supply chain management. While working as a data analyst in toppr, I got an opportunity to work in marketing department and got exposed to offline, digital and brand marketing.

    Kindly guide me as to what I should put my second preference in the form as.
    Thanks in advace!

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    • Himanshi Kothari says

      Also, I have won some recognition & awards while working with my current company. Which area can I mention that?

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    • Hi Himanshi,

      Given your profile, I feel SPJIMR is not the best option for you. Your work-ex is diverse and can be useful for both Ops firms as well as Marketing firms. You should target general management programs that will help you have multiple specializations and mote importantly have a shot at firms across different domains.

      If you want to apply for SP, I think your work-ex is not hard-core IT/Tech, so unless you are passionate about do not apply to IM first.

      Apply to Marketing first, since the data analyst profile can come in really handy for marketing, a lot of my students from analytics firms such as Latent View and MuSigma were able to crack SP-Marketing. You can apply to IM next.

      Overall, your profile is competitive for a profile-based call.

      Hope this helps,

      All the best!

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  9. Harsheet Mehta says

    Hello Sir,

    Request if you can analyze my profile and chances of getting a profile based call:

    Xth: 88.61% (SSC)
    XII : 89.23% (HSC)
    Graduation (B.com) : 78.95% from R. A Podar
    CA – in 1st Attempt at all levels.

    Work Experience: over 2 years experience in deal advisory – Merger and Acquisitions – tax with KPMG. (if articleship experience is also included then over 5 years experience). Further, promoted on fast track basis within 6 months of qualifying as a CA after receiving double promotion on qualification.)

    I wish to apply for Finance.

    Let me know your views.

    Thanking in advance.!

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  10. Meet Mehta says

    Hello Sir,

    Request if you can analyze my profile and getting a chance for profile based call:

    10th: 81.16%(SSC) top 1% of our UT
    12th:80.31% Science PCM (HSC) top 1% of our UT
    Graduation: Engineering CSE with 7.45 CGPA
    Work-Ex: None

    Cocurricular: 4 times national badminton player
    2 times inter university badminton champion
    selected to represent in All India University games( Couldn’t participate for medical issues)
    and many awards in badminton field.
    Presented a startup idea at IIT-Bombay tech fest(Eureka).

    My 1st preference is Marketing as a fresher. My 2nd preference is Finance. Is there any chance for me to get into Finance

    Let me know your views,

    Thanking in advance!

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    • Hi Meet,

      For Marketing your profile will be competitive, though by no means a sure-shot.

      Chances for Finance are next to none — nothing in the background to compete.

      All the best!

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  11. Mohammedazhar says

    Hi Sir,

    I am a Chartered Accountant with 3 years of experience in Audit field. My score are as follows (10th 88%, 12th 87% and Ty Bcom 72 from IDOL.Have stood 1st Rank in Jr College (certificate available). Have stood second rank in my school but don’t have a certificate for that, how should i put it or should I not put it as I don’t have a certificate to corroborate the same. Also I have cleared my CA in my very first attempt, can it be called academic achievement as there are many students who pass CA in the very first attempt. Other than this I work for a NGO since last one year. What is the chance of getting a profile based call from SP Jain.

    Thanks,
    Azhar

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    • Hi Azhar,

      You can put the academic achievement in your school despite having no certificate. The cleared CA in the first attempt will be common and hence you can let it be.

      Your profile is competitive enough for a call, given the 3-year work-ex, I would not say it is a certainty though.

      All the best!

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  12. Mohit Bohra says

    Hi Sir,

    10th – 93%
    12th – 91%
    Bcom (Podar college) – 69%
    CA – 61% (First attempt at all levels)
    CFA – Level 1 & level 2 completed.
    Work ex (in finance field) – 10 months

    Last year I failed to secure a profile based call for finance. Just wanted to know from you what could be the reasons ? Is 69% in Bcom such a big obstacle that they are ignoring the CA & CFA part?
    And moreover, last year I had no work ex, so will these 10 months of work ex help this year?

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    • Hi Mohit,

      Well, the thing is that the competition you will be facing will have great marks in CA as well! There will be many Commerce and Eco students from Delhi (and Calcutta) who have a CA as well as grad marks above 75. So they will score the same as you on all counts and score a few more marks on the Grad front.

      The work-ex will help but not much since it is under 12 months, it depends on the other applicants as well, I would say it is borderline, even last year, you would not have missed out by much.

      All the best!

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  13. Neeraj G says

    Hi Sir,
    Xth(ICSE)- 92%
    XIIth(HSC)- 81%
    B.E(IT)- 77%

    Academic Achievements –
    1. I have been in the top 3 of my department in my college in 3 out of 8 semesters.
    2. I was the vice captain of my house in my school.

    ECA
    1. I have been part of a social service/NGO for the past 6 years. The work covered under this spans over 3 months in a year.
    2. I have stood 5th in a triathlon(500m swimming, 11 km cycling and 21 km running) which had about 300 participants.

    Personal Responsibility
    1. I helped a friend with the sales and marketing of his fitness band startup for 2 months.

    Professional Responsibility
    1. I was involved in 2-3 recruitment drives due to shortage of manpower.

    I also have a side business/venture of my own but I do it as I was interested in doing something along with work. It is not a registered or an official company. It involves the renting of books like a library. Should I be mentioning this under any category and if yes, under which one? Please do guide me.

    Specialization : IM
    Any suggestions regarding if I should mention or remove something or if I have added something under the wrong criteria and what do you think are the odds of getting shortlisted?

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    • Neeraj G says

      I have a work ex of 25 months as a software developer as of today spanning over 2 companies.

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    • Hi Neeraj,

      You have a profile that is competitive for IM and thus strong chances to get a call.

      The Vice-Captain thing is not academic achievement, it can be added as a PoR in professional responsibility.

      You can add your venture details as part of persona responsibility since it is not a registered firm.

      All the best!

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      • Neeraj Goidani says

        Thank you so much sir for the inputs and the clarification. Will keep all of this in mind while filling up the form.

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  14. Tanisha says

    Hello Sir,

    Request if you can analyze my profile and chances of getting a profile based call

    10th Std (ICSE)- 93%
    12th Std (NM College)- 92%
    Graduation- (Bcom NM College)- 81.25%
    Professional Degree- CA (All Levels in First Attempt)
    CFA Level 1 completed
    Work Exp- 9.5 months from EY in Forensic & Integrity Services

    I wish to apply for Finance.

    Let me know your views. Further, should I mention about awards which I have received in my workplace like KUDOS?

    Thanking in advance !

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    • Hi Tanisha,

      You have an extremely competitive profile for Fin and I will be surprised if you do not get a call!

      You can mention work-ex awards in the professional achievements sections.

      All the best!

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  15. Abhay Mohan Bembey says

    Hi Tony Sir,
    I want to apply to Finance Course in SJIMR. I filled form halfway and read your article. Now I am a little jittery about getting a profile based score. My only concern is that my intention to choose Finance specialization is a mix of three reasons- Have some background knowledge through finance(where I choose Financial Economics in my 3rd year of graduation), my job profile has a small part of basic valuations(Comparative Method, Residual Method and sometimes DCF Method), and third is, interest in the subject. So you see I don’t have a specific degree or work-ex in finance. Also in my UG, my scores dipped.
    I want to share my profile in a crisp (after writing I found, I have written too much which is contradictive to word ‘crisp’, but still can I request you to give 5 min read) way and if you see that I can get a call for Finance Course.

    Academic Background –

    10th Class – 10 CGPA
    12th Class – 93.5%
    UG – BA(H) Economics [Delhi Univesity,SGTB Khalsa College, North Campus] – 63.5%(took financial economics in final year)
    PG – MA in Energy Economics(took Energy Modelling and Energy Derivatives Market in the Second Year) – 9.0 CGPA

    Work Ex- 22 months(including Oct’20)
    Working with Jones Lang LaSalle, a Fortune 500, as a City Analyst – Research and Consulting.

    Positions of Responsibility:
    11th Class – Vice Discipile Captan
    12th Class – Head Boy
    1st UG – Student Coordinator in Economics Club (Only position available for 2 students from 1st year) Bagged one of the highest Sponsorship for the Economic Fest.
    2nd UG – General Secretary in Economics Club and Eastern Music Coordinator in Music Club
    3rd UG – Lost President Election but still worked relentlessly for the club without any position and was awarded Special Mention certificate(first time is ever given to anyone)
    PG – Formed my own Economic Club in college and held few events under the banner.

    Extra-Curricular
    1. Completed a six-year-long, certification(called – Prabhakar Level) in Indian Percussion Instrument – Tabla. Had a band in UG, Delhi named – ‘Delhi -7’. Currently, occasionally play in cafes of Pune during weekends.
    2. A state Level Basketball Player. Continued in UG at the intra-college level.

    Professional Responsibility:
    My KRA in job majorly includes keeping our data-driven product upright along with authoring some white papers derived from data insights. But I went a step ahead to do business development for my team and bagged, in my first year, a consulting project from the top residential developer of Pune – Kumar Properties, in the upper range of our price band and delivered the study single-handed.

    Why Finance course:
    I have always had an interest in finance, and while working in JLL with real estate investment firm on different studies, I wish to join that community but with a good amount of formal finance training. Hence, I look to do an MBA in Finance, to join one of leading real estate investment firms like Blackstone, GIC, Brookfield etc. Being from JLL, a leader in Real Estate Consulting, my exposure and knowledge are quite strong of real estate, just finance part needs to be sorted.

    Please suggest if it’s possible to get a call in the desired field. If not, then what should be done in profile for next year, if no other CDC layered B-school is cracked this year. I am quite clear, I want to do an MBA only in Finance and from CDC B-School.

    Thanks for patiently reading my so long comment!

    Writing below my some thoughts, as every day we don’t get to reach to you.
    Personally, your blogs are a feast to read, I already implemented MR blog techniques in my day to day life which has helped in the job to hone skills. I was a poor reader, but preparing for CAT and reading you RC and CR blogs actually have improved my writing skills, even in my professional writings. And I have no words to say after attending your lecture on re-learning maths. I was struggler in Quants, but today much more confident person when I see questions(especially algebra). If I say what you have done to me in a few words is that you have changed me from studying anything to learning it. It’s a win-win situation for me today after months for preparation, irrespective of what result is there in Jan. Thank You, Sir!

    Regards
    Abhay Mohan Bembey
    A keen learner

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    • Hi Abhay,

      You have a pretty good profile overall and you should apply to Fin citing relevant education since Economics is a relevant precursor to an MBA in Fin!

      As you know Fin is crazily competitive so a call is no guaranteed but as I said, your profile is competitive enough to throw your hat into the ring.

      The only thing you can and should do to build a career in Fin — a CFA.

      That is the only way you can compete for almost all Fin jobs on campus.

      Really glad to hear that you found most of the sessions and the blog useful.

      One always writes with the knowledge (and hope) that there are sharp ones who might not be asking doubts in the webinars or commenting on the posts but are making the most of them. Especially happy with the changes you have experienced in your Quant prep and the fact that you are enjoying the learning process.

      All the best!

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  16. Swapnil Sukdev says

    Hello Sir,
    Kindly review my profile and please let me know if i get a chance for profile based calls.
    Academic Background –

    1. Class X – 87%
    2. Class XII – 94%
    3. B.Tech – 88.4% (ECE)

    Work Ex – 2 months(Including October,2020) in the field of Telecom Industry.

    Position of Responsibilty –
    1. Manager of my College Fest
    2.Captain of Cricket College Team.

    ECA –
    I have been part of a social service/NGO for the past 2 years.
    I have successfully managed a lot of events in my college.

    Achievements –
    1.Successfully Published two papers in different reputed associations.
    2. Third School Topper in Class XII Board.

    Also i have a good amount of Certificates of Udemy and Coursera for different courses which i have done in my college days.

    My First Preference is “IM” and my second preference is “Operations”. For Both the fields i have given “Special Interest in Area” Option and wrote a pretty decent answer.
    Is there a chance to get a profile based call?

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    • Hi Swapnil,

      You have a good profile and your chances of getting a call are pretty good.

      But there is one rectification that is needed in your app.

      You work has to and will fall either into one of the fields — Ops or IM — if it is technical and purely back-end it should be IM, if it is customer operations then it has to be operations.

      Hope this helps,

      All the best!

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      • Swapnil Sukdev says

        Thank you so much Sir for your advice. My job is purely technical and backend, so I am choosing IM as first preference and operations as second one.

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      • Swapnil Sukdev says

        We have our focus on the Creating a networking system, procuring the instruments and devices for that and connecting the Fiber backbone, after which we have to initialise the network, test it and make it ready for use.
        In this totally versatile, robust and effective communication system, initially we as Trainee Engineers are provided with resources to undestand it’s functioning, understand each small part of it, after which we might be appointed to work solely on the part which we find interesting. It’s a vast project with hundreds of small sections which provides us with vast opportunities and scope for gaining experience.

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      • If you like Ops over IM then you can pitch this for Ops as well since Ops starts from R&D, moves to design, Procurement, manufacturing, quality control, logistics and then returns.

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      • Swapnil Sukdev says

        Yes Sir definitely I can use this for ops too. But the main catch here is that i have done a lot of coding and learnt Android App Development in my college days. I am very good in problem solving. Also i have gained a lot of skills and certificates of this. So this is my main reason why i am choosing my first preference as IM

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  17. Greeshma Angane says

    Hi Sir,

    I am Civil engineer, currently working as a Design Engineer with a total of 2 years of experience in Dar al handasah (MNC). My academic summary – 88.7%-85.5%-8.22/10 (10th-12th-gradCGPA). Based on my profile, I feel operations would be my best shot, and hence I am planning to put it as my first preference.

    However, I am confused as to what should I put as my second preference – marketing or IM.

    While working in dar, I got the opportunity to work with international clients and i worked on some major infrastructure projects in middle east involving multidisciplinary teams.

    Position of responsibility-
    1. I was volunteer and coordinator of college technical festival for 2years
    2. I was a part of managing committee of college social club(Spandan) for 2yrs. I have successfully managed various events such as blood donations camps, village camp, and old age home visits etc.

    ECA-
    I have interest in Pencil sketching I was part of Art and craft club for III semester and I have sketched for college exhibition.

    Achievements –
    1. Won competition in paper presentation on green theme at college technical fest.
    2. Certificate for best student in civil engineering mechanics in 1st year of my college.

    Kindly guide me as to what I should put my second preference in the form and please review my profile.
    Thanks in advance!

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    • Hi Greeshma,

      You have quite a good profile and stand a pretty good chance of getting a call.

      About your second preference unless you were part of teams developing the software, choose Marketing, you can always weave your story around it. IM is for people with hard-core ITes/Tech work-ex, Marketing is for those who have had client-facing and analytics experience.

      Hope this helps,

      All the best!

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  18. Komal says

    Hi Tony Sir,

    Graduation – 82.68%
    Higher Secondary – 88.86%
    10th – 84.74% (I.C.S.E)

    I am an Electronics and Instrumentation Engineer. I worked with Cognizant Technology Solutions as a QlikSense Developer, however, my focus area was Data Analytics. I had to lead various meetings and face clients on a weekly basis. We were responsible for providing reports of the day to day working of the client organization. I wanted to apply to IM, however, after reading the exhaustive post, I’m confused if I should apply to IM or Marketing. I have great interpersonal and communication skills.

    Academic:

    Stood first in Electronics and Instrumentation Engineering Department for three consecutive semesters during graduation. Throughout the course of graduation, stood in top 3 of department and in top 7 of entire college.

    Gandhi Peace Foundation, Madras – Awarded the first prize in All India Essay writing competition – 2010

    Presented Papers in various esteemed universities (Osmania University and JNTUH University) and won second prize in a paper presented during my fourth year out of one hundred and seventy two entries.

    Was an active participant in IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers) throughout graduation.

    Position of responsibility:

    Due of unfortunate layoffs in my previous organization, a team of five was reduced to a team of two. We were responsible for providing various analytics for divisions (each having a head count of 300 plus associates). The whole responsibility of delivering the KPIs fell on our shoulders. We had to work on weekends as well and all our hardwork paid off when were awarded the “Under Dog” team in the department.

    Volunteered and headed CSR division of Cognizant’s Outreach. Went over to orphanages and taught to young girls math. Currently working for a Delhi Based NGO called “Strong She” in the Graphics and Marketing Division”.

    Established the first Department specific fest ‘Exietec’ during Graduation. Acted as Vice President of the Club henceforth.

    Was an EmCee for Annual Review Discord at workplace.

    Other activities:

    Organised various fun activities each week like baking, poster making at CTS.

    Working as a Marketing Co-coordinator for Delhi based NGO – Strong She

    Worked in Marketing Division of Ciencia (College Fest). Did canvassing to highlight the events of college to various other colleges.

    Currently undertaking a course, “Marketing Analytics” on Coursera by University of Virginia.

    Worked as an intern at Shine Projects.

    Kindly guide me as to what I should put my second preference in the form and please review my profile.
    Thanks in advance!

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